Deprecating keyout()? Say it ain't so!

[Traxus]

It has come to my attention through the grapevine that keyout() which allows us to send keyboard may be deprecated.

Please please puh-lease keep this around. There are certain things midi/osc just can't do without involving a third party. Part of my intrest in lemur was its scripting, which negated the need (though not the possibility) for running python and or other scripts in the background. The ability to say, save your work from Lemur or send other keyboard shortcuts, or even build a fully fledged QWERTY keyboard as I have just seems too useful to throw away...

[Macciza]

Hmm -
yes I had heard similar and really think that it should be kept or a native iOS keyboard to daemon facility implemented . . .
The ability to do key out stuff is very beneficial in many circumstances . . .

MM

[Joe Soap]

++

Unicode.

Non butt-ugly fonts. <-- Like . . . srsly.

[Softcore]

If such a case is true, I think is due to the fact that it aint working universally - as in, Mac users have reported problems with it....

I generally think, officially Liine has to support features that work 100% - still trying to figure out for example why was the "gesture" object dropped.....it seems to work ok but I believe again it has to do with general unpredicted behavior of some sort?

I hope, like the gesture object, it will only be depricated "officially" so to speak! You can still use "gesture" if you want even though it is not officially supported!

[Joe Soap]

Heh, it might work universally if it supported Unicode instead of some fakken standard from the '70s.

[edit] <-- It's "depracating" BTW.

[Traxus]

If such a case is true, I think is due to the fact that it aint working universally - as in, Mac users have reported problems with it....

Yes, a Swiss guy on mac emailed me about my keyboard, said that the delete key was firing off an 'a'.

Heh, it might work universally if it supported Unicode instead of some fakken standard from the '70s.

Sounds like most of us could live with a unicodeout() replacement. This just seems like such a handy function. What about Ableton live switching between Session and Arrangement? As far as I know that can't be midi mapped and is tied to the Tab key...

[edit] <-- It's "depracating" BTW.

Exactly, I wanted to build a Lemur based wireless keyboard template that includes better spell check than Chrome. How are we going to move on something like this without control of the keyboard?!

[Joe Soap]

I handle that by having learnt to spell as a small child.

But clearly not well enough!

Leaving classic Grammar / Spelling Nazi folly in previous post as a cautionary tale*.

(It's "deprecate")

[Softcore]

I always thought it was depricate lol!

[TheSwiss]

Hi @ all

I can confirm that the Keyout has some minor problems - at least on MAC. But that seems to be limited to the Special Chars like Tab, Return a.s.o.
But anyway, it's mutch better to have a limited Keyout than NO Keyout.

In my view, it would be realy sad to loose that powerfull Feature, because it is one of the things that forced me to choose Lemur instead of other Products out there and gives you the posibilty to work around not-midi-mappable actions/functions.

So thumbs up for Keyout and and please Liine, keep it on board!!

The Swiss Guy

PS: If you find some errors, you can keep them

[Joe Soap]

Here's what I've been wondering for a long time now . . . why aren't you Mac guys using Automator to make the entire PC sit up and beg, nevermind just get around a little niggle like this?

IAC drivers?

On Win we've got AHK, which is great, a few free virtual MIDI driversets, Bomes etc. (inc rtpMIDI for network sessions) - but Automator (and GUI Builder and IAC) are the keys to the kingdom, baked right into the OS.

Which isn't to say that the Lemur environment couldn't stand a little . . . ahhh, modernising . . . but when the box falls short of expectations --> go outside the box.

Oddly enough, it's full of stars out there too .